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Re: Why is Obama a 'Sore Loser'? (1.66 / 3)

Every analyst and every pundit believes that their comments are credible, otherwise they wouldn't be saying them. Although we may not agree with their analysis on most occassions, there are times when we can agree. It is time for some of you to wake up to reality, and stop complaining when someone posts things you don't like.


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by steve468 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:27:14 AM EST
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Re: Why is Obama a 'Sore Loser'? (2.00 / 7)

Clearly there's no chance that Karl Rove has an ulterior motive when he's giving "analysis" (read: concern-trolling) on Fox News.


by Pat Flatley on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:28:34 AM EST
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The MSM is crowning Obama prematurely. (2.00 / 0)

given how close the two candidates are in popular votes.

Many feel that Hillary would be ahead in electoral votes which is what it would take to win in Nov.

So, she quite possibly would be by far the stronger candidate.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:29:47 AM EST
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Re: The MSM is crowning Obama prematurely. (2.00 / 1)

Now convert that feeling to delegates, and you'd be in the running for the nomination.  The arguments are interesting and she can stay in until she's ready, but her staff are saying it's over.


by niksder on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:36:18 AM EST
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no her staff is not saying that (none / 0)

at all.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:07:20 AM EST
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"many feel" (2.00 / 2)

riiiight.  And "some say" that they're wrong.

Among states where either Democrat polls within 5-points head-to-head vs. McCain (aka "Swing States")...

Clinton does better in head-to-head polling in
Arkansas (6), Florida (27), Missouri (11), New Hampshire (4), Ohio (20), Pennsylvania (21), and West Virginia (5).  That's 93 EVs.

Obama does better in Colorado (9), Connecticut (7), Hawaii (4), Iowa (7), Indiana (11), Maine (4), Michigan (17), Minnesota (10), North Dakota (3), New Mexico (5), Nevada (5), Oregon (7), Virginia (13), Washington (11), and Wisconsin (10).  That's 123 EVs.

If you're willing to stay with facts rather than what "many feel," I'm happy to discuss the realities of their strengths in the electoral college, all day today and twice tomorrow.


by Rorgg on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:48:45 AM EST
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Re: The MSM is crowning Obama prematurely. (2.00 / 1)

Maybe you could show me the part in the DNC rules that deals with the popular vote. Clinton said that it was a delegate battle. They could be wrong though. So how about a citation...


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:53:19 AM EST
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Re: The MSM is crowning Obama prematurely. (2.00 / 1)

seems there isn't a rule for that, seems that the state certification is what the party uses, no penalty clause there. Seems Howie kept that part quiet. Seems she's been ahead in the popular certified vote most of this, with the exception of the one week between SC and WV. Seems that nearly half of those who took this poll think WV doesn't matter. That will seem to the super's as an elitist and losing argument. Seems they might find out.  


by anna shane on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:37:20 AM EST
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Re: The MSM is crowning Obama prematurely. (2.00 / 1)

I'm sorry. A simple citation to the DNC rules that says it's a popular vote race would assist me greatly in this conversation.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:00:30 PM EST
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Re: The MSM is crowning Obama prematurely. (none / 0)

Seems there aint one.  ;)


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Fri May 16, 2008 at 02:01:10 PM EST
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Re: Why is Obama a 'Sore Loser'? (2.00 / 2)

Riiiight.

If Rove said this about Hillary, would he be as credible as you're making him out to be?


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by Massadonious on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:33:32 AM EST
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Re: Why is Obama a 'Sore Loser'? (none / 0)

It is time for some of you to wake up to reality

Terrific comment coming from you, steve...I really do need more irony in my diet.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:46:44 AM EST
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Re: Why is Obama a 'Sore Loser'? (2.00 / 1)

Irony builds strong muscles!


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by Mumphrey on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:19:18 AM EST
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Re: Why is Obama a 'Sore Loser'? (none / 0)

Don't really agree with the post substantively, since analysts often have ulterior motives for what they say and there's an obvious one here (Republican lackey wants to undermine presumptive Democratic nominee), but this comment doesn't deserve to be troll rated.  Uprated accordingly.


John McCain vows to overturn Roe
by soccerandpolitics on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:50:34 PM EST
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