Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White.

by Lieber, Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:20:00 PM EST

Ralph Nader on Barack Obama:

There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American," Nader told the paper. "Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. I haven't heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white?"

Russ Feingold, talking Jewish as we all know he does, responds:

Oy vey! Dat vas not a kosher thing to say, what da man named Nader said. I am so upset wit this Nader dat I may have to go eat an entire box of Matzoh wit an egg cream. Oy!

Diane Feinstien, talking woman as she damn well should, defends Obama as well:

I know, from the bottom of my vagina to the tips of my breasts, that Barack Obama speaks from his heart and being a compassionate, soulful female I know full-well what a heart is.

If I wasn't here, in my kitchen, baking a cake and emotionally and compassionately raising children... I'd go confront Mr. Nader myself.

However, John McCain, talking in the tongue of old as geezerly people do, echoed Nadar's sentiments:

What? Huh? I can't hear you? Who? Barack who? I've never-- Oh, oh. BARACK! Yes, yes. I totally-- What was the question? GET OFF MY LAWN!!

But Tammy Baldwin and Barney Frank, talking gay as those people all do, rebuked Nader:

"No he didn't" Representative Frank cried out in a high pitched girly voice, while simultaneously snapping his fingers in a "Z". "What a BITCH!"
To which Ms. Baldwin simply growled and kicked Mr. Frank with her combat boots.

Barack Obama, finally owning up to his skin color as the honorable Mr. Nader suggested, finally broke his silence at the end of the day:

Shit motherfucker! Why whitey gotta played me like that?

Oh, and then, speaking in Harvard Educated, Future President, Senator Obama continued:

"Ralph Nader is trying to get attention. I think it's a shame because if you look at his legacy in terms of consumer protections, its an extraordinary one. He's someone . . . whose campaign hasn't gotten any traction. So what better way to get some traction than to make an inflammatory statement like the one that he made? It is what it is."




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Jeffrey Lieber, talking flabbergasted... (2.00 / 22)

...wonders if Sr. Nader has been spending too much time with Ms. Ferraro.


by Lieber on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:22:42 PM EST

Will someone please wrap their hands around (2.00 / 1)

that pencil neck and put him out of our misery of having to listen to him.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:42:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will someone please wrap their hands around (none / 0)

Mr Nader is a great champion of civil rights, civil rights for all.

If you hate him so much, maybe you're not as progressive as you like to think.

imvho


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 07:58:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Really? Which civil right is he fighting for... (none / 0)

...this year?


by Lieber on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 09:35:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I hate anybody who cost us the 2000 (none / 0)

election.  How do you like your Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dum horseshit now?  How many people had to die for Ralph's aching purity?


by ReillyDiefenbach on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 04:32:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Don't take the bait, guys. (none / 0)

This is one of aliveandkickin's sockpuppets.

Hey buddy!

;D


by spunkmeyer on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 04:00:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some White. (2.00 / 4)

Ralph has gone from curmedgeon to gadfly, he's really just in the looney bin full time now.


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:30:40 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some White. (2.00 / 3)

Oh, I see how it is...Ralph Nader "gets" black people, and you can only respond by calling him names! If only you got black people like Ralph Nader. He gets black people so much it's like he is black. He's out-blacking Obama because he mentioned lead paint, asbestos, predatory lending and payday loans. Do you know about those things? Probably not, because you're not black like Ralph Nader.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:01:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

And Nader The Traitor helped AA causes so much... (2.00 / 2)

...by putting George W. Bush in the White House.

What a f***ing narcissist.


by iohs2008 on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:05:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Ralph Nader (2.00 / 1)

was America's first Election Spoiler.


by Dumbo on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:46:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Uhhh... the first? Seriously? Might be a good time to brush up on your history.

I'm all for ridiculing this unhelpful narcissist, but "first spoiler"?


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by X Stryker on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 11:37:44 PM EST
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Oh... (none / 0)

I meant to type, America's First Black Election Spoiler.


by Dumbo on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 04:50:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Great blog post on this: (2.00 / 8)

http://angryblackbitch.blogspot.com/2008 /06/on-acting-white.html

I can not stand it when people refer to a person's manner of speech as "talking white" or their ways as "acting white".

Black is not a monolith and we do not all think, act, talk, eat, pray, fuck, sing, dance, vote or manifest anger the exact same motherfucking way.

If a black person is running for office that does not automatically mean that she or he is going to make affirmative action, poverty and pay-day loan scams the foundation of their platform. For the record - black America is also complex and there are a lot of policy issues that impact the lives of a majority of black people, which include but are not limited to poverty, affirmative action and pay-day loan scams.

That isn't acting white...speeches about the shit are not examples of talking white...and this bitch is going to move past anger into some serious rage if one more motherfucker insults me and mine through the assertion that only white people discuss the economy, healthcare, the war and international diplomacy.

Ralph Nader ought to be ashamed of himself for high-jacking legitimate important policy issues and telling the American people that those are black issues.

He ought to be ashamed of himself for putting forth the notion that a black person isn't fully black if they don't act like he expects them to and society has instructed them to.

And he should have checked himself before he wrecked himself by jumping onto the `I can say this ig'nant, insulting and racially stereotyping bullshit because I've spent years channeling my white guilt into black people issues!' platform with Geraldine Ferarro and the rest of the I'm-not-a-bigot-I-just-play-one-on-t.v. crowd that lurks within all political parties.


by Geekesque on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:36:04 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (2.00 / 2)

hilarious


John McCain: Cheney with a temper
by wrb on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:42:14 PM EST

Shouldn't DiFi be talking "Jewish American (2.00 / 2)

woman?"; that's got significant differences with just plain woman.


by bobdoleisevil on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:52:50 PM EST

You mean they're not all the same? (2.00 / 5)


by Lieber on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:57:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You've upset me so much with that remark, (2.00 / 2)

I'll have to buy at least ten pairs of designer shoes with your money before I feel better about myself.


by bobdoleisevil on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:10:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You've upset me so much with that remark, (2.00 / 1)

I'll have to buy at least ten pairs of designer shoes with your money before I feel better about myself.


by bobdoleisevil on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:10:08 PM EST
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Re: You mean they're not all the same? (2.00 / 4)

You should switch in Nancy Pelosi into that spot. Diane Feinstein would be talking about how Nader never calls any more and how she's so glad that the Democrats landed themselves a nice lawyer. I mean, it's no doctor, but it's still nice.


by TCQuad on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 03:30:54 PM EST
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Okay, now there's soda on my keyboard... (2.00 / 4)

I would add, though, that after complaining that Nader never calls anymore, she would add, "Not that I care, of course.  Why should anybody care about a poor, lonely old woman?  Not that I'm complaining, bubbeleh, what have I got to complain about?  I'll just sit here by myself, all alone, nothing to do, nobody to talk to..."


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:45:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

DiFi can be the ulimate stereotype: (2.00 / 1)

Jewish mother.


by Geekesque on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:18:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Jewish Guilt (2.00 / 5)

Ralphy, you never call -- and when you do call, you have THIS to say? What Chutzpah!

(okay, so my mom doesn't do guilt so good, you get the picture!)


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by RisingTide on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 03:44:19 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (2.00 / 3)

haaahahaa.


"I'll see you at the debate, bitches." --Paris/Rihanna '08
by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 01:57:34 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (2.00 / 8)

Mr. Nader speaks awfully white for an Arab...


Ida B. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.-Mark Twain
by Ida B on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:00:15 PM EST

Shouldn't he be talking about (2.00 / 4)

the plight of his Palestinian brothers and the hijab?


by Geekesque on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:19:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

laughed my ass off... (2.00 / 2)

SUPER-cali-fragil-istic-espi-ali-docious !!


"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale
by april34fff on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 02:28:27 PM EST

For blatantly playing on stereotypes (2.00 / 3)

I Rec'd this.

I'd rec this again.

I am proud that I rec'd this.

It's a tough world, these are tough times and they demands drastic action.


by UrbanRedneck on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 03:08:41 PM EST

Re: For blatantly playing on stereotypes (2.00 / 2)

Is your last sentence how an urban redneck talks?

Shucks, I'm just a country boy.  I ain't never heard better English than from people like me.


by rfahey22 on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 03:12:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

THE FRONT - Nadar vehicle for AA critisism of BO (none / 0)

Did anyone see "The Front"? Woody Allen was handing in all these screen plays written by black-balled writers from the 50's and passing it off as his own.

Listening to Nadar deliver his Obama critique as clumsily as he did it occured to me that the critique probably came from one or many Afican Americans who would prefer not to criticize Obama publically. Take the race part out, which was wholly unnecessary, and you have a standard complaint made by AA's against typical Democratic nominees or presidents: They are not addressing the concerns of the AA community, but instead are taking our votes for granted.

AA's would have to be very brave to openly critique Obama. Tavis Smiley did and he and his family received death threats and he had to quit his radio show. So, Nadar would be a perfect vehicle for airing the grievances and applying slight pressure.

The "talking white" charge probably came from an AA advisor of Nadar's. It's not a new charge. There is nothing new under the sun.


by mmorang on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 03:11:00 PM EST

You're right. (2.00 / 5)

I think this is a coded message sent out by the secret underground council of black people who disagree with Obama.  

Nader is protecting the black people from the roving Obama death squads like some sort of modern day Oscar Schindler or Gandalf the Grey.


by Can I Haz Moar Snark on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:08:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'm no Nadar fan, just pointing out the obvious (2.00 / 2)

Nadar didn't come up with his critisism of Obama on his own. He stole his whole line of attack or it was given to him.

The critisism that Nadar used against Obama is the same stuff some AA's have leveled against mostly white Democrats with the exception of the "he's talking white". That is a line of attack against black Democrats from other AA's.

I don't know if he just borrowed the line of attack from the past or if someone gave it to him this time. But,the attacks are nothing new and they didn't originate from Nadar himself.

If you don't think Nadar is getting any input from any AA's you are naive. Even among the black supporters Obama has there are some who would like him to address issues of poverty and health in the black community and think a little pressure is a good thing.


by mmorang on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:32:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yes, we know Mr Nader, i mean, Mmorang (2.00 / 3)

Obama's black and should be talking about black things.  Of course he should, because as a black guy he grew up in the ghettos where all the black people live and feels personal affinity with all his brothers and sisters.

Just like my own affinity with my white brothers and sisters suffering under poor service at the Polo Club.  As a white person, I of course have my Polo Club membership and grew up with Buffy and Smittens and so I empathize with their needs.

And Nader of course doesn't come up with his own ideas, he leans on his massive focus group leaders to help him craft his message.  We all know Nader is a toned and polished professional politician and drags around ranked legions of advisers in pinstripes to tell him what to say.  They're always eating all the cavier at the Polo Club before I get any, due to the poor service.

-chris "where's my after-dinner champers?" blask


"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer
by chrisblask on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 06:28:11 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we know Mr Nader, i mean, Mmorang (2.00 / 2)

You are making a strawman argument to me. I am not the one who made the comment, Nader did. I'm not defending it I'm just explaining its origin.

I don't think all blacks talk the same or think alike so why suggest that I did?

I only pointed out where Nader's line of attack came from.

Nader's mistake was to bring up race at all. He could have made his point without chiding Obama for "talking white." His other points are valid and the criticism could have also been leveled at Hillary, who I supported. The Dem's do need to push for more changes in the inner cities and rural areas.


by mmorang on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 08:01:30 PM EST
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Re: Yes, we know Mr Nader, i mean, Mmorang (2.00 / 2)

I wasn't making a strawman, I was picking on you for supporting any part of Nader's ridiculous statements.

You have no idea whatsoever what made Nader flap his gums the way he did, but you ascribe it to the Voice of Black Folks Discontented With Obama.

Every argument I have seen you make is in some way supporting the idea of Sen. Obama's deficiencies.  That is the definition of Trolling for Concern on a forum dedicated to furthering Democratic and Progressive candidates and principles, when said Sen. Obama is in the process of running for the office of President of the United States.

If you need further explanation, I can draw schematics for you...


"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer
by chrisblask on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 08:49:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Nader (none / 0)

Not Nadar.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 04:51:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Nader (1.50 / 2)

I prefer "nadir"


by stegro on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 05:51:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (none / 0)

I think Nader meant Obama is "acting white" as in acting like a white politician.


"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony
by feelfree on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 03:59:28 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (2.00 / 2)

Um, what?  So, what, he doesn't exclusively talk about affirmative action or something?

Pretty stupid.  That's like saying that Hillary was "acting like a male politician" b/c she didn't just talk about equal pay, but other issues as well.  Both statements are bigoted and very dumb.  


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by bosdcla14 on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 05:14:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (none / 0)

Actually I found it very disappointing that he does not discuss issues that are somewhat outside the mainstream. I am dismayed when he talks about black fathers should step up but will say nothing about police misconduct such as what happened in the Sean Bell killing by the NYPD. Sean Bell was an American too.

But the reality is he probably would not appeal to many of his supporters if he did.


"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony
by feelfree on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 05:24:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Barack Obama Talks Him Some Serious White. (none / 0)

Hmmm---Obama puts forward a real critiques of American foreign policy, gets slammed for it by Hillary & McCain, and you're saying he "doesn't discuss issues outside the mainstream."  I mean, I find his ideas pretty mainstream, but the media and his opponents sure did not.  

It sounds like there are certain issues that you feel should be discussed by him, they're not being discussed, and you feel that's wrong.

I for one feel politicians should talk about what matters to them.  So if you're a female politician, but you're not as interested in equal pay as you are say civil liberties, focus on that.  The idea that one's demographic determines one's issues I see as wrong, and I don't think a politician should try to talk about one thing if they feel more passion for something else.  

In addition, I do imagine that you're right that by talking about police brutality, Obama might well drive away some supporters (because he would sound more radical) and with them any realistic chance at election.  Since I don't want that to happen---and since Presidents sure can't do much about local law enforcement brutality issues---I think its a wise choice to talk about the issues that the President can affect and are important, and not ones that are not really affected by the President and would hurt his electoral chances, even if those issues are important as well.


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 05:37:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The difference is YOU... (2.00 / 0)

...are rightfully asking for your issues to be addressed and Nadar is suggesting that there are "black" and "white" issues and that Obama needs to "speak Black" and "act black" as if either of those things were definable.


by Lieber on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 06:19:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

We had a Corvair when I was a kid (2.00 / 3)

it was so cool!  Fucking Nader killed the Corvair.  Bastard!

Shouldn't he be concerned with turkey-necked miserable old white-guy issues now, anyway?  You know, like how service isn't like it used to be, and how kids these days just don't have any respect?


"A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Admiral Grace Hopper, computer pioneer
by chrisblask on Thu Jun 26, 2008 at 06:36:58 PM EST


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